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David Sessions's avatar

Stimulating thoughts.

I think some of these dichotomies - self vs. not-self, or self vs. intersubjectivity - are misleading, or at least don't quite capture the way I think about it (admittedly a work in progress).

Remember that I'm not Foucault, so I have no objection to Freud or even to that quote from Iris Murdoch, which strikes me as a basic empirical description of human psychology. I'm not against bio-psychological determinism as such, but more to the extent it remains a simplistic discussion-ender in most gay people's self-understanding; welp, we know that, so there's no more to say! In fact, I was saying something similar to what you're saying here: the "what you have to work with" is less interesting than the "how you work with it." And I don't think the Sartrean notion of freedom is empty, though I prefer the Heidegger version.

And I think the interest of Foucault here is precisely in elaborating a style of living that is not purely about individual psychology; that is potentially intersubjective, communal, identity-forming. When I say "subjectivity" or "ethic of life" I mean precisely a communal story or interpretation of one's experience - and here I also agree with Blake that gay identity is distinctly modern. I think of it more as a tradition or heritage, especially a cultural heritage, that I choose to belong to, to engage with, to take up and elaborate. And that, at its best, can offer a *practice* that responds to all of these problems, including: 1) our 'gay brains,' or whatever is determined about us; 2) our basic-ass needy human psychology, which everyone has; and 3) our need to transcend - to some extent - both of those things and connect with others.

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emmah godd's avatar

Thank you for this post.

Thank you for reminding me about Everything (is) Everything ('but we're not profound, we're just meat' from Canary regularly circles my brain) and making me think Caroline Polachek has read Weil (c.f. the lyrics to Welcome to my Island).

Thank you for always giving me things to think about!

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